Barack Obama Bites His Lip, But for How Long?

THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter

There has always existed an almost paradoxical tension within the Obama campaign. If the Illinois senator had attacked Hillary Clinton with the same ferocity that Hillary has applied against him, then, some have argued, this would have been a much different contest. He might well have smoked her in Ohio and Pennsylvania and she would already be political history. Still, had Obama gone after her as she has gone after him, he might well have smoked himself, because playing the old attack game would have violated the basic and (so far) successful premise of his "new politics" -- the very politics that could yet hold the seeds of its own destruction.

It's a bit of a mind-bender -- and is likely to remain one. 

Obama hasn't been shy about attacking Hillary on the issues, when it comes to the few they actually and fundamentally disagree on. Such as the "McCain-Clinton gas tax gimmick," as he has rightly called it, which Hillary has somewhat melodramatically hung her hat on. "At best," he has charged on the stump, "this is a plan that would save you pennies a day for the summer months ... unless gas prices are raised to fill in the gap, which is just what happened in Illinois when we tried this a few years ago." In addition, "Unless you can magically impose a windfall-profits tax on oil companies overnight to pay for the holiday," Obama has said, "it could imperil federal highway funding, and cost Indiana more than 6,000 jobs." In a nutshell, Hillary's plan is "more about scoring points than solving problems."

But his silence on other issues -- those of the "old politics" of personal but usually quite effective destruction -- raises an interesting question, which The Politico has pursued: "What arguments has Obama taken off the table, even though he thinks they are true?" The answers provide a peek not only into some real gold he could have mined but hasn't, but also a preview into what the GOP attack machine would have cranked up against Hillary had she landed the Democratic nomination.

Despite Hillary's claims to having been "fully vetted," there's a lot of material with which the public is little familiar, because the media have explored it so scantily. Some of it regards "old issues," reports The Politico, "like Hillary Clinton’s legal career, which includes lots of cases that never got much public attention even during the Whitewater era."

Then there's the new, "like recent stories raising questions about the web of personal and financial associations around Bill Clinton. Since leaving the presidency, he has traveled the globe to exotic places and with sometimes exotic characters, raising money for projects such as his foundation and presidential library and making himself a very wealthy man." And some of this wealth, as Obama could have strenuously argued and the GOP most certainly would, has perhaps found its way into Clinton's campaign coffers.

As for guilt by association, Jeremiah Wright-style, "How about ... a trail of associations that includes golden oldies like [convicted-felon] Webb Hubbell?" Or Marx Rich, "the former fugitive financier who won a controversial pardon from Bill Clinton [and then] gave money to her first Senate campaign." Or Hillary's brother, Hugh Rodham, who "took large cash payments for trying to broker presidential pardons."

And then there are the more proper political issues that Obama nevertheless has remained relatively -- almost curiously -- silent about. For instance health care and Hillary's lambasting of him "for not being sufficiently committed to universal" coverage. "Why is it, his team asks, that Democrats have done so little to advance a long-time progressive goal for the past 15 years? The answer has everything to do with Hillary Clinton’s misjudgments when she was leading the reform effort in 1993 and 1994."

Furthermore, reports The Politico, "Most irritating of all to Obama partisans is what they see as her latest pose: that she is selflessly staying in the race despite the long odds against her because of devotion to the Democratic Party and the belief that she is a more appealing general election candidate." Yet what you won't hear Obama echoing on the stump is the "article of faith among most people" who surround him: "that the Clintons were a disaster for the party throughout the 1990s. When Bill Clinton came to town in 1993, Democrats were a congressional majority, with 258 seats in the House. When he left in 2001, they were a minority with 46 fewer seats. There were 30 Democratic governors when he arrived, 21 10 years later."

Which brings us back to the Obama campaign's internal tension.

"The Obama side is frustrated with the news media," says The Politico, "for not carrying more of its argument." But, as is correctly noted -- and it's a big but -- "If he really wanted, Obama could generate all the coverage he wanted about Clinton’s past by leveling accusations in his own words." The media would have a field day, each accusation would be front-page news, and all us junkies would have an old-fashioned shootout to revel in.

Yet now he can't personally generate the coverage, even if he were so inclined. "Politically, he correctly believes that he would be called out as a hypocrite if he practiced the conventional art of attack politics after preaching against it." 

Hence he is forced to limp  -- not soar -- to the nomination. Still, that's something of a remarkable feat, considering Hillary's original "inevitability." How much of the new and rather genteel politics he'll be able to salvage in a longer campaign against John McCain and the GOP's brutality, however, will be fascinating to behold.

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THE FIFTH COLUMNIST by P.M. Carpenter

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It's truly amazing.

Whenever Mrs. Bill Clinton throws some crap at Obama and he calls her on it, her campaign then attackks Obama for not sticking to his "clean" campaign promise. He gets attacked for defending himself! Only from the mind of a Clinton.

Amazingly foolish ...

Obama only goes negative on Clinton when he is attacked? He's only defending himself? Only from the mind of a Clinton hater.

BTW - Would you like some examples, Bettysdad?

Go for it.

Which part of your pathetic, tiny brain figured I said "Obama only goes negative on Clinton when he is attacked?" Give me some examples of that. You probably think it's reasonable to explain your own fantasies..

Oh, so you admit ...

... that he also goes negative when he's not attacked? In all fairness, your posts are a little obtuse, some it takes so deciphering. I'd be happy to provide some examples, but first I want to know your position on the issue.

Oh, and it's the upper, left part of my "pathetic, tiny brain" that figured it. The same part that pointed out that Hillary Clinton was entirely accurate re: her role in the Northern Ireland peace process. The same part that pointed out you were lying when you claimed John Hume called her a "cheerleader."

BTW - You said you were going to condemn Obama for touring SC with Donnie McClurkin. I must have missed that. Could you provide a link?

Barack Obama To Become Our Next President

"Despite all this she-says-he says that corporate controlled media keeps feeding us?" "No matter." "Why no matter?" "Barack Obama has our attention." "With what?" "Awareness that a better world is not only possible, it's ours for the taking." "But how?" "We elect a president who'll end the Iraq War, negotiate with Iran plus turning things around here at home." "What sort of better world?" "It'll be up to us."

No need to go negative

Obama has the nomination all but sewn up, so there is no need for him to get down in the mud with Hillary. To do so would be counterproductive, as it would compound the anger that Hillary's supporters already feel towards him. Remember, he will need their support in the general election, so it would be unwise to piss them off unnecessarily. Given the garbage that he has been forced to deal with, I think that Obama has run an exemplary campaign so far. I can hardly wait for him and the rest of the party to turn their fire on McCain, who may be the most flawed presidential candidate in modern history (excluding W, of course, who is in a league of his own).

The Clintons and their supporters

are a pathetic joke. They ran the democratic party into the ground in the 90s and now they pull this gas tax kind of shit and smear their middle class black opponent as an elitest. It's no wonder Hillary's supporters are comprised of the uneducated aka the stupid and old people aka racist reagan folk.

Check that list

Lots and lots and lots of older people support Obama, and despise her as much as the rest of us..

Do not forget: A Black man

Do not forget: A Black man can't talk that way about a White woman, unless he is fond of being lynched. Not that Obama would have done it, anyway, but it helps not to have the option of straying, even given that your opponent knows you are constrained in this way. I don't expect Obama to stray too far, though, against McCain. He might do a lot of the saying things designed to make McCain rageful, however; I certainly would.

Do not forget: A white Woman

Do not forget: A white Woman can't talk that way about a Black man, unless she is fond of being labeled a traitorous, racist, Rethuglican, Bush-Cheney Lite, f@*&ing whore, bitch, KKKlintonista ....

Never mind ................... too late.

Pay attention

Mrs. Bill Clinton has been talking exactly that way about Obama, without being called the names you list..

I am paying attention ...

And she's been called all of those names right here at BF. You should note that I never said Obama called her those names. Of course, what politician would use language like that?

That being said, "talking exactly that way about Obama" is a little vague. Do you mean she's been critical of him? Even negative? In a campaign? Whoah .... stop the presses!

Are you seriously suggesting that Obama has NOT been using negative campaigning? Because, that's almost as funny as your claim that she "lied" when she said she helped the peace process in Northern Ireland. Or that John Hume called her a "cheerleader."

BTW - You said you were going to condemn Obama for touring SC with Donnie McClurkin. I must have missed that. Could you provide a link?

Ah, Yman - Two Wrongs Don't Make a Right, except DLC "right"

Still trying, after months of the Clintons and their surrogates playing The Race - er, "experience" - Card over and over, to make Hillary out to be The Victim Here, aren't you? Just like Uncle Junior on THE SOPRANOS, in a lot of ways....

It's. Not. Working. Obama, despite your best efforts, manages to rise above them, over and over - and all your attacks on him do is make Hillary Clinton looks smaller, meaner, grubbier...and more desperate. Congratulations! You've all managed, by dint of the "Kitchen Sink Strategy" and Dirty Politics as Usual, to turn the first woman with a real shot at the Presidency into some kind of figure of contemptuous pity. Barack Obama didn't do that, I and everyone else who came to support Obama didn't do that, even the MSM didn't do (well, much of) that - it's her supporters, like you and her campaign advisors, who couldn't see the difference between short-term "PWN'd!" tactics and a long-term winning strategy who did that.

In the end, Hillary Rodham Clinton, who went into this race w/the perception of being a highly-intelligent if somewhat brittle person, will be perceived as every bit as bullying and stupid as the soon to be late&unlamented George W. Bush - and it's people like you who can count THAT as your personal contribution to her failed Presidential campaign.

Keep hope alive, drprodny!

Although I guess that's pretty easy to do in an alternative reality. While we appreciate your obviously sincere concern re: the public's perception of Hillary, if you think that YOUR opinion (of ALL opinions) of her is somehow representative of the public as a whole, you've created a whole new dimension. "Contemptuous pity"? "Somewhat brittle"? Yeah .... Hillary will be perceived as bullying and stupid as GW Bush. Really? I know that you and both of your friends may believe that, but I'll wait for the polls that show people think she's as stupid as GW. That'll happen at about the same time that all those "low information" voters stop claiming that Hillary "pledged" that Florida and Michigan's delegates would not be seated. That still gets me. On the one hand, it's hard not to laugh a little every time some "low information" voter makes that claim. One the other, you just can't help but feel a little sorry for them. Sort of ..... "contemptuous pity", I guess you could say.

Oh, wait .......... that was YOU, wasn't it?

Hey ........ Did you ever find the cite for that? No? Oh well. Hey, just for kicks, try Googling "Drprodny's alternate reality for fauxgressives."

Maybe you'll find it there.

The Problem with the Democratic Party...

This is really silly....Had Gore or Kerry decided to run, either of them would have blown away Obama and Clinton.

Dems who don't win the nomination or the general election run and hide but WHILE running and hiding they act and say things and travel around as if they are still in some kind of political contest... staking positions on foreign policy to the environment.

Gore is the poster boy for this one. He jets around concerning global warming at a fever pitch..takes pot shots at the GOP...then doesn't become a candidate because he lost ONE time...and that loss was not a loss as we all know.

What better platform to change things is there than the presidency of the USA if Gore really was THAT agitated about the environment?

In fact Gore publically stating this and other opinions with the cameras rolling really positions the ENTIRE Democratic Party into specific political and policy directions that are then identified with being a Democrat.

In other words Gore is toying with his party ...putting it into a corner...then REFUSES TO LEAD IT AS A CANDIDATE. That shows me if he can do this as a non-candidate, then he is more powerful than anyone in the party and therefore he should lead it as its presidential candidate. In fact, by staking out these very public policy positions, he now has an OBLIGATION to lead the party or just shut the F up.

Now you take the GOP....their guys don't give a rat's ass HOW many times they get beat at any level....they keep coming back...McCain is the latest example....they just keep resurfacing and they RUN again until they win.

Kerry is just as good as a candidate as Gore in my opinion....Both of these guys if they ran would have creamed Obama and not allowed Hillary to run wild with lies and racists tinged campaign tactics...and both Gore and Kerry would have neutralized Bill Clinton from day one. Also...a Gore or Kerry presidential run would have made either Hillary or Obama GREAT VP prospects with them then becoming very viable candidates for president in the future....

So what we are talking about here really is the Democratic Party and its instinct of its defeated candidates to RETIRE in the face of defeat....Gore and Obama....Kerry and Obama......hell Obama and Kerry......You see...We have OTHER candidates as well...Como..Schumer....good lord the list goes on....

But certainly Gore is the guy I have a real issue with...If you are THAT dedicated to saving the planet, then god da..n it all run for the office of president...so what if you got burned years ago...get over it and run again...the GOP does it to a man....they don't lie wounded on the ground, bleeding and moaning.THEY DON'T READ THE MEDIA SOURCED OBITS ON THEIR CAMPAIGNS AND STAY DEAD.....they get up and carry on with their corporate menu of the destruction of America....they don't care what it takes....Look at Ronald Reagan....same thing...

Or the best....Richard Nixon after being defeated for CA governor..

But our boys and girls??? They scare easily and run for the hills.

I am an Obama supporter but ya know...the more obnoxious and obstinate Hillary becomes...when put in the GOP mind set of never going away....the more she might be what this party needs in the long run...

Kind of like a slasher movie....at the end when you think they slasher is dead...then here comes the hand through the floor boards.

Bottom line...Dem candidates better learn to freakn' get off the turf when sacked either in their own primaries or a general election...get back up...go to the huddle....and keep in the game.

Al Gore is a wimp..a spoiled wimp along with Kerry...these two guys should be leading this primary season and the fall general election...instead they are off on the side lines...hell..they are not even in the stadium....they are busy sending out emails to us to send in money and get involved...

Excuse me? ....Go to the locker room and suit up, gentlemen.

It has become so automatic that a losing DEM candidate will suddenly switch to retired country estate owner and sip his ice tea and go back and forth in a rocking chair...lots of apparent motion but taking us NOWHERE!

Al Gore...lead or shut up...quit making policy statements and then not taking the responsiblity of being in front of the armored column and leading the charge...You got famous because the Democratic Party took you to this point of national and world wide prominence......I don't care how many times you freakn' might lose..your ideas are solid...you're still YOUNG.....you have a sound character...you're a good man....so stop acting like a spoiled child. LEAD...same applies to John Kerry.

and the same applies to Hillary and Obama if they go down in flames against McCain....pick yourselves up and RUN AGAIN....and that admonition probably won't be needed in Hillary's case since I have every belief she will rise from these ashes and she will be a candidate again in the future....Even if I don't like her, I am starting to like her ability to resist being defined by others and the media. We need more of that in this party not less. Obama has been sputtering around for the last 3 months because Hillary won't cave. Sputtering...uninspired.... If he does manage to win...what the hell kind of fight is he gonna have going for himself against McCain?

Hillary is providing Obama with a real obstacle course and Obama has slipped off the rope...off the wall..and into the water...he has slowed down...

Maybe after thinking this through, Hillary Clinton does have a chanllenging point to set at the feet of all those Super Delegates....she is saying..this guy is a putz...he is so petrified because of me he can't even move his lips....and so this editorial HERE sure sounds like Hillary's warning to the Super Delegates..which might not have been YOUR intention in this piece but interestingly it is Hillary's whole point about the Obama candidacy.....inadvertnently you have made Hillary's point. In fact..had Hillary not made all those racist statements...she would probably be leading this thing right now.

damn this is frustrating being a Democrat....We win both houses in 2006 ...we actually WIN....and we got fools like Nancy Pelosi who instead of going for the juglar of these fascists....plays along with them....a rich little girl who dresses up in orange sheets to visit the Dali and acts like a Beatles groupie visiting Ravi Shankar in the '60's while her party and this nation is going down the garbage disposal.

As if the U.S. has a any legitmate thing to say to China concerning occupying countries..son of a gun....Pelosi when she had the opportunity SEVERAL times to hold up funding for OUR occupation of Iraq, folded like a cheap chair at a Baptist tent prayer meeting...what utter hypocrisy....fund our illegal occupation for oil but wag a finger at the Chinese while wearing orange drapery and having that Pelosi distant gleam in her eyes like.."I am important and isn't this neat that I can fly around and do stuff like this"...

jeus christ almighty and all the angels and saints in heaven....

Damn it all.

Oh..I forgot..we are Democrats and we do this kind of sh..t.

Fifth Column dude...your nuanced careful story here about Obama walking on razor blades and glass misses the point of how f'd up our party has gotten.....this sucks. WE SUCK.

John Kerry?

You have got to be kidding. That guy ran one of the worst campaigns in US history. He let a bunch of draft dodging morons swift boat him into the ground without even responding to them. He just sat back and twiddled his thumbs like a total wimp. I am glad we'll never have to put up with that pu$$y ever again.

again thank you fellow DEM...

Just substitue John McCain for Kerry in your piece here...

..how does that read now?

and I did say he wimped out but I am not going apply capital punishment to his political career like you have here...

We have good strong leaders in our party..John Kerry is one of them. We just need to understand like the GOP does..that a loss here and there doesn't mean you have lost your usefulness.... But if you like the idea of our people losing something...then taking out their own sword and impaling themselves.. the joke that we have become as DEMS will just rattle down the hallways of U.S. History until this country is put on total lockdown by the GOP for our own safety and good.

How's them apples, dude?

John Kerry would have

John Kerry would have trouble blowing away Joe Lieberman's toenails, after Kerry revealed himself in 2004, post-election, as a frightened little man whose word is worth little. Indeed, the contrast with Kerry, post-election, is part of what made John Edwards appealing to net-savvy people. Gore might have done well, though, but partly that's because of the way he has become due to losing the desire to be president.

don't agree...

See..this is EXACTLY what I was talking about...who says John Kerry is not capable of running a campaign?? You...? ..the media???...certainly NOT the GOP since they are too busy running for office on their own tickets...so just WHO is sending this message that a good guy like Kerry can't EVER run again or is at BELOW Lieberman rodent level??

John McCain was humiliated by Rove by using the evangelical movement to both stab him and his wife in the most personal of ways back in 2000 ...just the dirtiest of politics possible.....and low and behold McCain has become 8 years later, after being declared DOA numerous times by the press and media, the GOP candidate for President who will probably paste any DEM candidate to the wall of some skunked out abandoned Shell gas station restroom in west Texas......

John Kerry is a force on the national level with a lot of support still there IF he would just pay attention...but he self-imposed this penalty...HE is the one who instead of brushing himself off and getting back in the game..instead took the now all too predictable DEM way out and BENCHED himself.

I would enthusiastically support him and to compare him to useless traitor Lieberman is not waking up and smelling the concrete. Lieberman does not own Kerry. Lieberman is having his 15 minutes of fame playing that narrow line the DEMS have in the Senate like he is some lottery winner.....had there been a sufficient DEM majority in the Senate, Lieberman would be a goat..running in the darkness with his trenchcoat collar at the full UP position trying real hard not to be noticed...Instead he is the GOP marvel....rolled out on demand like some carnival freak show side act when the GOP wants to take a stab at the DEMS...Joe is there for the GOP. Always...

I just can't stomach hearing crap that Kerry is somehow a lesser man than this Conncecticut gift to America. No way.

Kerry did himself in to a large point with his summer 2004 Grand Canyon stupid statement that given a choice ..he would have done the same thing as Bush did (invade Iraq).....later that night, his own wife didn't sleep with him in Scotsdale. Ever made a mistake like that???

Yeah..it's OK for the GOP candidates to make mistake after mistake..lie and lie...but let one DEM trip up...they go down and go down hard and usually...ord which they impale themselves on without any push. This is supposed to show hurt and some sort of honor.....

It just shows me how stupid the DEM party is with its human resources like Gore and Kerry and Edwards....and a lot more....we are letting Hillary Clinton and Obama battle this out alone? Gore and Kery should have ran too....

We belong to a loser party..top to bottom...a bunch of flippn' losers..

Get used to it.

BOTH DEMS VOTED TO FUND THE IRAQ WAR

"Pelosi when she had the opportunity SEVERAL times to hold up funding for OUR occupation of Iraq, folded like a cheap chair at a Baptist tent prayer meeting...what utter hypocrisy....fund our illegal occupation for oil but wag a finger at the Chinese while wearing orange drapery and having that Pelosi distant gleam in her eyes"

Both Clinton and Obama voted to fund the wars of Iraq and Afghanistan over and over and over until they decided to run for president. Clinton and Obama voted the same 257 votes out of 267 times. A difference? A little here and a little there. Hillary did not sit in Rev. Wright's church for 20+ years or contribute over $20,000 to his church last year, and then in spite of being "no more able to disown him as I could disown my white grandmother", dropped him in front of and under the bus when his poll numbers went down. Hillary did not actively campaign for Joe Lieberman against an anti-war candidate, wouldn't have photo taken with San Francisco mayor because of being afraid it would seem that he supported gay marriage, called Pakistan "the right battlefield ... in the war on terrorism", threatened to invade Pakistan, uses various evangelical cons (anti-gay Preacher, singer, ex-homosexual to entertain black church members in SC) to win black church members, voted against a 30% interest rate cap on credit cards.......Hillary never called her grandmother "a typical white person".
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yep....

You and I have no argument here.

This all shows how really screwed up our party is.....as I said in my rant....when you start laying it out on the table like you did here..it is ALL pretty disgusting....I am so frustrated with this crap...I can see a lot of people who are worn down by this hypocrisy to simply stay home in November and let McCain take this with that core of 29% GOP crazed voters who will come out of their holes and mega churches in the South and vote GOP....

We can all describe what we see going on can't we? And yet none of us can vote in a solution to resolve this nation gone mad.

My only hope is that there is a Labor Party formed....from the bottom up....just start electing candidates from the city council and work upward and force the Democratic Party to change....A Labor Party movement at the grassroots level is about the only hope left...a party beholding only to working people and labor unions....

which other path is open to us.....?

When the GOP sweeps everthing in November..their very next step is to create a Supreme Court without any speed bumps or stop lights .....Governance by Blitzkrieg.

We deserve the country we get.

Obama Strategy

With the end in sight I would have urged Obama to take this tact in dealing with the Clinton Machine. It is True, above board and would catch on very quickly because of its mathematical simplicity. CONSIDER THIS: BUSH H.W. VP 1980---1984 BUSH H.W. PRES. 1988---1892 CLINTON W.J. 1992---2000 BUSH G.W. 2000---2008 (24 YRS 2 FAMILIES) CLINTON H.R. 2008---2016 (32 YRS 2 FAMILIES) In a Nation of over 300 million citizens, is this the best we can do...? NEPOTISM>>>>>patronage bestowed or favoritism shown on the basis of family relationship, as in business and politics: I would have a surrogate get this message out as quickly as possible, over the weekend if possible and leave no time to respond. This should prove interesting to the fence sitters and help soft Democrats for Hillary take notice of the one glaring issue which has received no attention..The news would be all over this on Monday morning and Monday evening and Tuesday morning..Election in the bag and a win to take the wind out of the Clinton sail. Issue resolved, her campaign would be dead, no money, no party bosses and no chance to recoup. Please Obama or someone near to him, get onto this..

Civility

Obama has emphasized from the beginning that his nomination is unlikey, unevitable, and almost unbelievable. Based upon civility and a "new" kind of politics, he simply can't afford to get into the outhouse with Hillary. Beyond that, it seems to me that he needs Hillary's enthusiastic supporters to win the election. She, on the other hand, doesn't need his because she is really John McCain. My Republican brothers are already calling Obama a "communist", but they won't vote for Hillary in the general. All of the Democrats who have come out for the primaries are needed to defeat McCain, and the only one who has a slice of a chance to keep them out is Obama. Let's stop worrying about how bad a president Obama will be and concentrate on what a disaster President McCain would be.

ONCE AGAIN THE ROOT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OBAMA AND CLINTON IS

THE NEW POLITICS OF HOPE AND DIVERSITY AGAINST THE OLD POLITICS OF CYNICISM AND SEPARATION.

PM, we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one

What turned me from an Edwards supporter to an Obama one was that Obama DIDN'T dive into the sh$t up to his neck - while the Clintons did, gleefully and face-first (remember Hillary referring to her early low blows against Obama as "fun"?). While yes, it may mean his victory among the Dimcrack faithful is less stunning than it might have been, it also means that Obama's picked up a lot of people who gave up on Bush/Clinton/Reagan/Nixon style American Dirty Politics As Usual.

I'll admit, we'll have to see how well Obama's act plays against the Rethuglican NeoKon Khrister Right Slime Machine that's reluctantly decided to back McCain - but you know what? I learned something watching Hillary Clinton campaign in the old DCL "Rethug Lite" style - and that's that I'm sick of my supposed "friends" happily wallowing with pigs, and then calling me names when I point out they're covered in garbage when they finally get up....

You can't convince a fool

It's always important to point out that republicans would vote for Adolph Hitler if it were possible for him to be on the ballot as a republican.

It's Not the Rethug Fools We Need to Convince, Captain Jesse

It's everybody else who's been looking at the past few decades of Far Right/Kind-of Right and going, "Is there any real difference between Reagan and Mondale/Bush and Dukakis/Bush and Clinton/Clinton and Dole/Bush and Gore/Bush and Kerry/McCain and Clinton?"

... and

...and in the meantime, we are all witnessing the decline of America.