Obama vs. Clinton: The 21st Century vs. the 1990s


both pictures courtesy of me. I took these pictures.

I spent the weekend wandering Indiana, focusing on the Obama-Clinton matchup. -- Chad

I wondered as I wandered Indiana whether I was in a time warp. No, not because the heartland is at a slower pace than the big cities. But I felt like I was going back in time to the 1990s.

I attended events for Clinton and Obama, and talked to many Hoosiers on both side of the Democratic Party fence. When I talked to Clinton supporters, asking them why they liked the senator from New York, they eagerly spoke of going back to the 1990s. "Things were great in the '90s" was a popular saying this past weekend. When I talked to Obama supporters, asking them why they liked the senator from Illinois, they spoke of the future.

Bill Clinton spoke in Plymouth, Indiana on Saturday about bringing back tax rates from the 1990s on the wealthy. One of the buttons I saw asked, "Do you Miss Clinton? Vote for Mrs. Clinton '08."


Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano, a fervent supporter of Obama, spoke in Mishawaka, Indiana on Sunday about how you reinvent the economy and reform education for the workforce of the future. Napolitano also spoke at the end about finding the best candidate to move the country forward in a new direction.

It's easy when you travel to places such as Plymouth to see why the 1990s might be an inviting time. The economy for a lot of these people was much better during that decade. I talked to a middle-aged couple who lives between Warsaw and Fort Wayne. She drives an hour to work, and he drives about that distance as well. She talked about spending $10 a day on gas, plus wear and tear on her car. Spending at least $200/month on traveling expenses for work eats in your budget. Their vacation, which they were on when I talked to them, was setting up a tent and camping out on a friend's property.

Especially among Democrats, the era from 1993-2001 was the best in anyone's recent memory. But the solutions of the 1990s aren't going to necessarily fit into the problems of 2008. Certainly, borrowing a few can work, but the vision needs to be straight ahead.

When Bill Clinton did speak of renewable energy, the mentality from Obama and his supporters is incorporating those solutions into the overall package of future growth.

The education reform of 1993 was helpful, but our public school system still runs in a farming/9-month mentality when the countries we compete against are on a different plane. Napolitano spoke about education reform being "more than improving schools." She spoke of workplace competency and keeping intellectual capital here in the United States.

This is not a vision of the 1990s, this is a 2008 focus. In the 1990s, the question was jobs going to Mexico. In 2008, that is still an issue, but so are jobs going to India.

For what Bill Clinton spoke of in 1992 and John F. Kennedy spoke of in 1960 was going forward and what the future holds for our country if we work together. Yes, the 1990s were a good time and the meat of the Reagan/Bush bread of 1981-1993 and the bread of George W. Bush in an economic sandwich. But going forward will give us a real chance to compete in the technological reality where we live.

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Obama, Clinton or McCain - any difference?

Sorry, but all of them are friends of AIPAC - Israhell's lobby. All of them want to destroy Iran! All of them support the Holocaust caused by the jewish squatter state in Palestine! Moreover all of them have no concepts how to run this country - reduce the debt - or get some efficient energy use. Common crap and after some of them won the vote there ain't anything going to happen. Want evidence? Look how bad the press in the US has become.

Hillary Clinton's Tactics

Hillary Clinton is a vast right wing conspiracy.

Yes, It's Much Worse Now But Things Were Plenty Bad In The 90's

"With the same racism, same dysfunctional health care system, same outsourcing of jobs, same us against them." "But at least we weren't at war." "If not at war what was that bombing of Belgrade all about?" "At least human rights were paramount in the nineties." "Then why did President Bill Clinton do absolutely nothing to prevent or stop the Ruanda genocide?" "What can we do that there be no war no more, nowhere, never, not even one? "We elect someone president who'll end the Iraq War, negotiate with Iran plus turning things around here at home." "And then what sort of world?" "It'll be up to us."

Newest Lead Article in Newsweek

The US better move into the 21st Century or we're finished. Forget the 90s. Clinton had NOTHING to do with the prosperity of that era. Venture Capitalists did. They're the ones who sunk tens of billions into creating the Internet era. It just HAPPENED to coincide with a Clinton Presidency. That era is OVER. Finished. Done. Get your heads out of your a*$es. http://www.newsweek.com/id/135380/output/print

He doesn't have a past...

Obama has to talk about the future...He has no past....His biggest claim to fame was, as a state senator, in a speech, he "said" he was against the war...There's no guarantee had he been in the US Senate, he would have voted against the war...His war voting record is the same as Hillary's...

Seniors and Voting

My parents are in their late 70's. They do not like change - any kind of change. They like to talk about the past - all the time. This is they way a lot of people think when they get older. It is hard to convince them that a new way of doing things will be better.

Old people voting

Not all of us who are old are phobic about change. Many of us welcome positive change--which is why we support Barack Obama! Not only I, but many of my "old" friends believe it is time to pass the torch to the next generation!

how new is he?

Although any dem would be an improvement We all should curb our enthusiasm! B O is no savior. There is much WORK to be done!!!! http://www.counterpunch.org/martens05052008.html