Obama base + Clinton base = Democrat in the White House -- More from Indiana


pictures all taken by me from Hillary Clinton's May 4 speech in South Bend.

I spent the weekend wandering Indiana, focusing on the Obama-Clinton matchup. -- Chad

This is for the Barack Obama supporters among our readership. The good news: your candidate is going to be the nominee for the Democratic Party for president of the United States. The bad news: Hillary Clinton has a base that your candidate needs in order to win in November.

I drove around a lot in Indiana during my brief stay in the Hoosier state. I saw Bill Clinton give a terrific speech in Plymouth, so great that you wanted to vote for him. I saw Arizona Governor Janet Napolitano speak in really good terms on how to sell Obama to skeptical voters. And then I saw Hillary Clinton along with Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN) in a rally in South Bend.

Clinton spoke for 21 minutes outside her campaign headquarters on Jefferson Blvd. just outside the main downtown area in South Bend. But in those 21 minutes, she was really on her game.

You almost wonder -- when you hear her speak - where this candidate was in January. Where was this candidate during Obama's 11 wins in a row?

But there is a reason why you hear this now. Clinton was doing well in Indiana for the same reason she won Ohio and Pennsylvania, and likely would still win Michigan in a rematch - this is her base.


Clinton was comfortable in this setting. She noted that between Chelsea, Bill, and herself that they have made 95 stops. She warmed up the crowd by focusing on the young girls in the audience, noting that "no matter what happens" that "you can grow up to be president of the United States." And she also played up how it has been 40 years since Indiana played a major role. If her demographics swing older, they will remember Robert F. Kennedy and the '68 race in Indiana.

Then she dived into the meat of the presentation. She talked about "the great sigh of relief when the moving van pulls out" from the White House. Clinton focused on her 4-point plan on gas prices, $10,000 tax credit for those to buy hybrids.

She played up the fighter element she has discovered, pointing out that talking isn't enough. She slipped into this sardonic voice about how magically people will change their mind once they hear words - she never said the word "Obama" but everyone knew who she meant.

She talked about how some are paying 20%, 25%, and even 30% interest on student loans. She talked about ending No Child Left Behind. These points drew enthusiastic applause.


Clinton will likely win Indiana today because of the many in this state who can relate to her. Most of these voters can be swayed to voting for Obama in November, but Obama supporters: you have your work cut out for you.

The good news for you is that you have most of the Democrats in hand. You have those who have been behind your candidate, and you can - without too much trouble - get those who are on the fence between Obama and Clinton.

But there are fervent Hillary Clinton supporters who can easily drift to John McCain. These are people who likely would have stayed home if Mitt Romney or Mike Huckabee were at the top of the Republican ticket. They will vote in November, and they feel their choices are Obama or McCain.

Could naming a woman as the VP pick placate some of these voters? Perhaps -- if getting a female in the Executive Branch is what is important. But do not underestimate those who support Hillary because she is Hillary. Napolitano did get the question about whether she would accept the VP nomination if selected. She steered away from the question, but clearly Napolitano and Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius are on a theoretical short list. For those who back Hillary because she is Hillary, picking a female could have a backlash.

But the best way to go about it is study how Clinton appeals to voters on economic issues, on fighting for justice, gas prices, and health care - and use that to your advantage. Obama supporters: your base will not be enough to win in November. You need these rust-belt states where Clinton is at home. Win them over and you will cruise in November. If you don't, we'll have another nail-biter.

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HILLARY BASE???? HOW ABOUT RICHARDSON BASE???

I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO KEEP CLINTONS IN THE PICTURE... ... BUT THERE IS NO REASON TO... THERE WERE 9 NINE 9 NINE GREAT CANDIDATES ON THE DEM DEBATE EDWARDS ????? BUT IF YOU NEED TO PICK UP THE SOUTH AND THE WEST AND THE HISPANIC.... .................R I C H A R D S O N ALL OF THE CHARISMA AND NONE OF THE BAGGAGE........... ...WHY CHOOSE A RUNNING MATE WHO SAID THAT YOU SUCK ? ? ? HOW WOULD SHE ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS DURING THE GENERAL ELECTION.... SHE HAS HERSELF PUT CLINTON OUT OF THE TICKET...

Not so fast...

I can't agree with this analysis. Teaming up with Mrs. Clinton has a lot of downside and very little upside, for my money. He would tie himself to her negatives, for one. Mrs. Clinton on the ticket helps GOP turnout and fund raising, for another. It also undermines his central campaign theme - CHANGE. Those are the tangibles that are obvious. The intangibles - like having the Clintons and their ambitions just down the hall - are ones that give me even more pause. Mrs. Clinton's squeaker in Indiana also doesn't give her much leverage to force the issue. Her campaign coffers are in the red, big time, which gives Obama a lot of financial leverage. Paying off her debts should be enough without the VP spot, I think. Keeping the Clintons well fed but at a distance seems the best strategy for an Obama Administration. Also, from a pandering perspective (this IS American Politics, after all) if white males are this year's 'soccer moms', it seems a good idea to give them some 'comfort food' on the ticket - namely a Regular White Guy with foreign policy cred. A Clinton supporter would be a big plus - Wes Clark is a good template. I LOVE Jim Webb of Virginia - but we may need him in the senate. Ditto for Evan Bayh. In any event, I'm THRILLED with the the possibility of an Obama presidency, in the true meaning of the word - it's both exhilarating and terrifying, all at once. I am reminded of the final scene in the classic movie, The Candidate when the Jim McKay character wins and wonders, "Now what?" It's time for us to answer that question: roll up OUR sleeves and get to work on OUR government. It's up to us and Yes We Can!

A 1% margin of victory - is not a strong negotiating position.

Hillary Clinton is one of the most polarizing politicians of modern times. Her negatives are already pretty high. There are 68% of the people in this country who are now against the war that Hillary Clinton voted for. The Democratic Party, and their nominee, have a huge decision to make. Should the candidate be allowed to choose his own VP candidate? Will not having to any longer run against Hillary's negative campaign, finally allow Obama to begin to make the clear distinction between himself and McCain? I think so. Given a clear choice, Democrats will vote for a Democrat. If we are to believe Rush Limbaugh and "operation chaos", Hillary Clinton's base is made up of a lot of cross-over Republicans, who will cross back over and vote Republican, and McCain, in November. Hillary's base, at this point, is a total unknown. Politics makes strange bedfellows. We will have to wait and see what happens at convention.

Why Do We Celebrate The Election Of November 5, 2008?

"Because the winner of that election, Barack Obama, put and end to the Iraq War, that there be no war no more, nowhere, never, not even one." "And ever since then?" "It's been up to us, the what sort of world."

Sad Bushists for Clinton!

I hope somebody is keeping track of the die hard Republicans who are voting in this primary for Clinton and will be voting for McCain in the general election.

Here are two questions we will probably never know the answers to: How many are pure racists? How many are duped greedy fools?

With Rush Limbaugh pushing his Caotics into the fray, and Rupert Murdoch spinning his Fox for her, and Richard Mellon Scaife mobilizing his vast right wing conspiracy for her, I can't see how she is losing so much anywhere. But she should never lose an open primary underr such conditions.

Could it actually be that America has so many intelligent voters? Poor Hillary, but -- Three cheers for the red, white, and blue! And cheers for Obama, too! Integrity for us!

Hillary's so very fake...and cool video

Here's the thing about Hillary...she used to be Hillary Rodham Clinton, insisted that everyone use her maiden name...until she ran for prez, at which point some focus group told her to drop the Rodham and that was that for feminism and family pride. Here's the thing about Barack Obama: he could have gotten tens of thousands more votes if he'd used his childhood nickname, Barry. He didn't. He stuck with his real name, his honesty trumping focus group concerns. And, oh, yes, here's the link to the cool video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8lvc-azCXY

if a modified name helps beat McCain....

Can this really be a reason to support Obama? If he's elected, it will be in spite of the reaction his name causes in the "heartland." Neither keeping Barack or dropping Rodham is a sign of presidential character. But one could be a sign of paying attention to factors that influence electability. We can't afford to lose this one!